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Our server of choice - LIGHTSPIRE [EN RP-PvE]
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Geekbyte 28th May 2014

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LIGHTSPIRE - [EN RP-PvE]


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After discussions between all the Admins (Myself, Bas & Scott) and Corwen who will be the Guild Leader of WEIRD within WildStar we've come to a decision over the server that will be the home for XSG in the game.

When I say it wasn't an easy decision (thanks Carbine!), I must say it was a pain in the ass to decide as there were so many factors that influenced the decision and needed considering.

But at the end of the day we had to resolve this with the emphasis on what's best for XSG as a whole.

We decided on Lightspire as we felt it gave us as close to what we could have had on an RP-PvP if Carbine had actually given us one.

Things we considered and settled on was the following;

  • Role-players have a place to feel safer and express themselves without feeling harassed (XSGamers will NEVER tolerate harassment of its members, in-game or in real life)
  • RP'ing isn't forced on anyone - it's entirely optional as it should be.
  • Open world PvP is still possible through the optional PvP flag - Admittedly this is a bit of a compromise, but see below.
  • We intend to have ALL members have their PvP flag ON when playing to simulate a PvP realm - There still will be RP-PvP players who want to open world PvP.
  • Past MMO experience has taught us that being ganked or corpse camped by 12yr olds isn't fun - At least with a toggle-able PvP flag we can get out of a frustrating situation & level up.
  • All other aspects of PvE / PvP are still available on the server (Raids / Dungeons / Adventures / Arenas / Battlegrounds / Warplots) - PvP are cross-realm!)
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  • We appreciate that we can't please everyone, but our ideal choice that Carbine reneged on, was taken away and we've had to make the best of a crap situation.
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  • We will have many Alts on our accounts and I expect many will roll Dominion characters as well as some on pure PvP servers (me included).
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  • `If` Carbine ever decides to open RP-PvP servers up at a later date, then we'd look at the situation and see what people think about it. It's not a closed book on that one.


There're probably numerous things that I've forgotten to mention as I waffled a lot during our discussion, but please remember we never made the decision to piss anyone off, but solely had the Guild & XSG's best interests at heart.

I don't expect everyone to agree with it either, but Carbine really have forced our hand on this and while I appreciate they had their reasons for doing so, going back on what server types they were going to have at launch makes them out to be twats.

At the end of the day, we want people playing together and I hope the above outlines the reasons for the decision.

With that, and so I don't waffle any longer...... see you on Nexus
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Obsessite 28th May 2014

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Tidy darts! Now to choose my class/race/sex from the multitude of saved character builds I made over the closed/open betas

It's about to get WEIRD!


Nelim 29th May 2014

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Good decision. You handled it with care of the playerbase and I may have been harsh about it before in the discussion topic, but I have changed my mind about said topic and support you 100%.

The painfull truth is Carbine didn't listen, although the said they would and we have to pick up the pieces and make this game as fun as it's intended. Now gonna cry and wait for 45 hours untill release.

/Nelim
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MrMoustache 29th May 2014

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I think I will play on the PVP server, because RP isn't the reason I want to play this game and PvP is. I'm still thinking how I can get this to work with WEIRD. The simulate the PvP server with flag PvP on is, from my perspective, useless. 90% of the server will not have PvP flagged, and so the whole point of PvP is gone (except battlegrounds etc).

I think you did a good job selecting the server, Carbine did not make it easy. You got valid points to choose the RP-PvE server, although my personal priority's are a bit different, I do not do allot of RP-ing, and love the PvP aspects of the game. That's why I won't be joining WEIRD on the RP-PvE server.

Don't know if I have to leave the whole guild? I really loved playing with you guys in the BETA.
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Tapsumbong 29th May 2014

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I respect the decision and had a feeling that RP-PVE would be the choice. At this time I'm still not sure whether I will join the guild on the RP server or not.

PVE flagging mechanics is not that big a deal, and for me would be offset by the fun from being on an RP server with presumably more mature and humourous players.

What does concern me is whether I will be able to find suitable, dedicated people to do rated PVP with on an RP-PVE server.

I've been reading some threads I found searching google, and people seem to be saying that RP-ers don't have much of an interest in rated bgs and arenas (I don't know how true this is, I've never played on an RP server). If this is the case then potentially I'd be sacrificing too much of the endgame I want to indulge in by rolling RP-PVE.

Would love to hear some thoughts about my concerns from some of the people who have experience on RP servers, it will be very helpful in making my decision.

In closing, I'd just like to say that regardless of whether I decide to remain with the guild or not, I greatly appreciate the invite, and think you all come across as a lovely bunch of gamers!

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QuoteI respect the decision and had a feeling that RP-PVE would be the choice. At this time I'm still not sure whether I will join the guild on the RP server or not.

PVE flagging mechanics is not that big a deal, and for me would be offset by the fun from being on an RP server with presumably more mature and humourous players.

What does concern me is whether I will be able to find suitable, dedicated people to do rated PVP with on an RP-PVE server.

I've been reading some threads I found searching google, and people seem to be saying that RP-ers don't have much of an interest in rated bgs and arenas (I don't know how true this is, I've never played on an RP server). If this is the case then potentially I'd be sacrificing too much of the endgame I want to indulge in by rolling RP-PVE.

Would love to hear some thoughts about my concerns from some of the people who have experience on RP servers, it will be very helpful in making my decision.

In closing, I'd just like to say that regardless of whether I decide to remain with the guild or not, I greatly appreciate the invite, and think you all come across as a lovely bunch of gamers!
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Hey tap just wanted you too know that I will be a dedicated pvper in endgame. Raiding is not my main priority at this moment and I like the PvP in WS.

Hope to keep playing with you, a all others.



MrMoustache 29th May 2014

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If I read correctly, RP is an optional in this guild. And this guild is a PvP guid. So...why choose a RP-PvE server when the RP-aspect is optional? And PvP is not.
Frostglade 29th May 2014

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Judging by the posts on the official forums there should be quite a few RP-PvP guilds rolling on the RP-PvE server and permaflagging. How many it'll end up being, only time will tell.

When it comes to PvP on RP-PvE servers, I can only speak of my own experiences in WoW (vanilla->pre-WotLK). There were lots of wPvP events such as Tarren Mill raids, capital city raids, spontaneous fights across the world, arranged RP PvP events etc. Things were also pretty active when it came to things like rated arenas and such. I have no doubts it'll be the case here as well.

Roleplayers are not only interested in roleplaying. RP for them is something they do besides the regular PvE, PvP etc, be it casual, semi-hardcore or hardcore.


"It will be happened, it shall be going to be happening, it will be was an event that could will have been taken place in the future." - Arnold J. Rimmer

Frostglade 29th May 2014

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QuoteIf I read correctly, RP is an optional in this guild. And this guild is a PvP guid. So...why choose a RP-PvE server when the RP-aspect is optional? And PvP is not.

We are not a PvP guild. The PvP permaflagging "requirement" is to show our support for the RP-PvP servers, and to participate in some wPvP. RP, PvE and PvP are all optional in the guild, none of them obligatory. Shortly put, we are an RP-friendly social/casual PvX guild. We have RP'ers, PvP'ers and PvE'ers in our guild.

While PvP on a PvE server is still possible, through flagging etc (though there might be less of it depending on the server), trying to RP on a non-RP server is a futile attempt. RP'ers on non-RP PvP servers are typically seen as freaks, nerds and weirdos (not the good kind). To have the added immersion of wPvP, an RP'er could choose an RP-PvP server.. if they were available. The only remaining option an RP'er has left without an RP-PvP server, if they don't want to be harassed, is an RP-PvE server. Thus the best solution is to roll on an RP-PvE server, where it'll be possible to RP, PvE and PvP in Arenas/BGs/Warplots etc normally and in wPvP, though at a lower rate. It thus covers most of the things the RP-PvP would've, only missing some of the open world PvP.

Now, depending on the amount of time between the launch and the potential addition of an RP-PvP server, we might consider moving there, or at least starting an alt guild there. For me that time limit is about a month after launch. Anywhere beyond that and I most likely won't be interested in risking the switch, after getting my roots in another server.


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Geekbyte 29th May 2014

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QuoteIf I read correctly, RP is an optional in this guild. And this guild is a PvP guid. So...why choose a RP-PvE server when the RP-aspect is optional? And PvP is not.

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In an ideal world, we'd have been able to have both but as has been pointed out Carbine reneged on that and left us in the lurch with a difficult decision.

One of the main reasons and it was something I would not have allowed to happen is the serious bad attitude from certain players towards RP'ers. I'm not saying it's PvP players, as there are PvE players just as bad and they can't understand the concept that people like to Role-play deeper with their characters and get quite aggressive and nasty at times.
  The responses in the WildStar forums and on Facebook towards people who remarked about no RP-PvP server is quite saddening.

So baring that in mind it left us one pretty much one choice really and I hope I outlined the reasons in the original post as to why the four of us came to a reasoned decision about the server.

Yes, we've had to forgo the open world PvP which for some is going to be a big miss, but the happiness and safety of our members is paramount and as such they should be able to play free from harassment and be able to play the game how they wish to play it. 
 If PvP was totally culled on a PvE server then it would be a different matter, but with the Arena's, Battlegrounds & Warplots there's still PvP available to everyone and we hope that running with the PvP-flag ON will actually get some open-world PvP too, specially if the Guilds like ours, that have missed out on the RP-PvP server do the same.
  OK, it won't be the same, but again our hands were tied and it's the best decision out of a bad situation.

 We will never force people to play a game a certain way if they don't wish to and I hope the players who had their heart set on open world PvP realise that we were in a lose-lose situation with this, but when 75% of PvP is still available on a PvE server + a simulated open world PvP then it's the better outcome we could of come too.

We won't feel any negativity towards anyone that doesn't wish to play on the selected server as it's a personal choice, but at least we hope you understand our reasoning.

Gaz
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JurGrady 29th May 2014

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The Lightspire section of the Wildstar forums is open:
https://forums.wildstar-o ... htspire-roleplaying/
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Frostglade 29th May 2014

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If only I could post anything on the official forums .


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Boddymut 29th May 2014

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Cant remeber 100% but bgs and arenas ar cross realm
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JurGrady 29th May 2014

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QuoteIf only I could post anything on the official forums .

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 I can , if you want me to put something up just let me know 




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Frostglade 29th May 2014

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Would be useful if someone would mention that we've rolling on the Lightspire on our pre-existing recruitment post until I can make a new one on the Lightspire forum. We've got one post on the Hazak forum.


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Geekbyte 29th May 2014

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I'll find the post and bump it with info.

Well I would if I could.

Logged in with a username of Admin, but no Admin powers.

2: Logged out and logged back in so should be OK now

3: Updated the Hazak post and created a new one on Lightspire


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Lavium 30th May 2014

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If we're going to have dominion alts (chua squad?), are there plans to pick a pvp server and set up an alt guild?


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Scott 30th May 2014

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Requirements for any Alt Guild if we go ahead i think has to be Chua Only lol
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Geekbyte 30th May 2014

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Well I would say yes to Chua only but seeing as some races don't have access to all the classes, then going Chua only might not work.

An alt guild would be a very occasional thing too.

But, but... I thought of a cool name The Dumb-Minion


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QuoteBut, but... I thought of a cool name The Dumb-Minion
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I think I missed something, or is this name only "cool" to Liverpool fans?
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