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A really WEIRD Background
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TeaTimes 17th May 2014

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So I had a bit of a thought about the RP background of WEIRD.

It's basically one idea and 2 different branches.. depending on if we want to have a RP-Leader as well.
I currently like the one with the RP leader better.

Since WEIRD stands for Wanted Exiles Impersonating Rowsdower Defenders all of us will have a criminal record. (No murders or anything.. thiefs and so on.. mostly harmless..)
So the idea was that no one would go around and just recruit people in a way of saying "Hey there! I'm looking for some criminals - you might not happen to be one?" Right?
What do they do now with criminals? Let's say they put them to cryo-sleep so they don't do any harm and they'll probably put them together in one area which you could compare to a prison block.

Let's say now that our leader was supposed to watch over that prison block and made a mistake that lead to "freeing" (waking up) the prisoners shortly after arriving at Nexus and that ended up in him becoming a wanted man himself - since he didn't report the incident. So to protect those rather harmless criminals - for his own (unknown) reasons - he erased the names and exact crimes and made that whole incident look like an accident.
Since he knew the officals would find out eventually he decided that it would be a good idea to come up with a cover. WEIRD was invented and most of the bunch of criminals was easily convinced in joining. After all they'd have a second chance of freedom this way.

The second branch would be basically the same just with the difference that it was actually an accident caused by a Dominion attack which erased names, DNA - or whatever kind of technology the Exiles use to identify people - and freed the WEIRD bunch probably including our leader.
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Meltup 17th May 2014

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Oh my... and I thought that WEIRD is some kind of nature defenders  But it looks that every Exiles guild wants to be criminals somehow  But back to the topic. First of all, I don't realy get it - criminals to Dominion or to Exiles?

If to Dominion, that is very strange with leader part as Aurin could not be prison watcher (I suppose that our leader gonna be Aurin, or am I wrong?). Though it could be very interesting history about how Exiles escaped Dominion prison.

If to Exiles, then it is very strange as whole. As far as I know, Exiles doesn't use any cryo-sleep for prisoners - they deal with them quite simple - a bullet into the head. Moreover, even if they were putted in cryo-sleep for some reason, I have a serious question: How... or what could Aurin do in maximum 1-2 years to become a criminal?
(if the complexity of this question isn't obvious, I can explain it.)


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TeaTimes 17th May 2014

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A bullet to the head for a small theft seems to be a bit harsh.. are the Exiles really doing that?

1-2 years is quite a bit of time to become a criminal. You don't have to be a mastermind who sold the whole of the Exiles to the Dominion.. you don't have to be the one who told the Dominion that the Exiles are at Arboria.
Just think about a minor crime and 1-2 years should be enough.


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Frostglade 17th May 2014

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Yeah, I have to say that a headshot for a petty crime seems like something that Dommies would do. Shouldn't really be a surprise that we'd have a criminal background, either, being Wanted and all, but what kind of a background would that be is still uncertain.

I like the story, just puts some pressure on my end . Given the travel took 7-10 years to Nexus (I've yet to find any mention if this is how much the characters aged in stasis or the actual time travelled, so I'm assuming the latter), there must've been an essential crew taking care of the systems and people's health. I'm also assuming that they'd have had some kind of a use for a scientist, which is somewhere where my character enters the picture... or something, I have no clue yet.

QuoteMoreover, even if they were putted in cryo-sleep for some reason

This just brings a picture in my head of a Granok swinging a huge golf club to putt them in cryo-sleep .


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Meltup 17th May 2014

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QuoteA bullet to the head for a small theft seems to be a bit harsh.. are the Exiles really doing that?
No, if they catch a small thief, I think they will simply beat him/her  Exiles were cosmic strangers untill arrival on Nexus (and, in my mind, the perfect example of such life was in Battlestar Galactica). They had VERY limited resources and, most likely, rivalry for them.

Of cause they have laws but I am not sure those were officialy published - seems more like rules to follow. You know, bureaucracy and jurisprudence are not the things to spend your time for when the biggest part of known Universe (Dominion) is hunting you.

From what I have seen, Exiles lived in separated societies, within which all know each other, and that communicated with other societies in order to help each other and maintain ballance. Some of these societies might have criminal behavior but were watched by other groups and, more important, the military forces of Exiles.



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QuoteYeah, I have to say that a headshot for a petty crime seems like something that Dommies would do. Shouldn't really be a surprise that we'd have a criminal background, either, being Wanted and all, but what kind of a background would that be is still uncertain.

I like the story, just puts some pressure on my end . Given the travel took 7-10 years to Nexus (I've yet to find any mention if this is how much the characters aged in stasis or the actual time travelled, so I'm assuming the latter), there must've been an essential crew taking care of the systems and people's health. I'm also assuming that they'd have had some kind of a use for a scientist, which is somewhere where my character enters the picture... or something, I have no clue yet.

This just brings a picture in my head of a Granok swinging a huge golf club to putt them in cryo-sleep .
You are very quick... I can not answer on lore questions in one moment  
At first, I thought "Wanted" meant "Wanted for a job"  Or something like that 

If you look in RP guide line:

And "sleeping" is the main problem with Aurin. Nexus was discovered right after "Ravaging of Arboria" so Aurin had like 2-6 month to prepare themselves for cryo-sleep. With some assuming it is possible to stretch for 1-2 years but not more. And MOST of that time Aurin studied new technologies.


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I just looked into Exiles lore:

"Exile Communities

The Algoroc community of Gallow serves as a central point for ranchers, and other locals in the region. Its a good example of the somewhat semi-autonomous nature of Exile towns. The Gallow Accord acts as an agreement for local guidance and decision making. Law and Order in most Exile communities is conducted by volunteer militia types known as Peacekeepers. They aren't an official grouping, but they are one recognized as the first line of defense against marauders and enemies."

"Judges

Wandering semi-nomadic bringers of justice, the Judges like the Peacekeepers are an institution heavily ingrained in the fleet culture of the Exiles. Their authority comes building a rapport with local communities, and often their judgement are quick and brutal. Justices are Judge apprentices that often travel in number with established Judges. The center of Judge leadership resides in the Court of Judgement where High Judge Kallen Blackwood oversees important cases to the high court. "



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Rustain 17th May 2014

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I here i was thinking we were goat herders. 
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TeaTimes 17th May 2014

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Let me explain myself a bit here.

All of the "Put them into cryo-sleep!" happened before they even knew about Nexus (could be after depending on your character story.) So it's still on the ship. But there are a few advantages compared to throwing them out into space or just letting them be.

1. Even criminals have family.
    Imagine you get thrown out into space because you stole something. Your family would rage! You don't want a riot on a spaceship.
2. In cryo-sleep you don't need food..
    ..or other resources like medical attention. You  are actually saving resources by putting criminals into cryo-sleep.
3. You can use them as workers..
    ..once you found a planet you want to settle on. You want workers to build houses and grow food. Those criminals could just do some public service to redeem themselves.
    

Because Amaranth deleted our files during his "accident" we have the possibility to get off the ship unnoticed. Eventually they will find out. But we're already out on Nexus and there's enough other stuff to do for any of the officials to care for us.

We are just a group of ex-criminals who want to start a new life on Nexus - Maybe we're even helpful to the Exiles this time. Some of us might still have some criminal energy but all we try to do (just like the rest of the Exiles) is survive on this strange new planet.

Our cover (to not get discovered by some form of law immediately) is impersonating Rowsdower defenders.
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Meltup 17th May 2014

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QuoteLet me explain myself a bit here.
Hm, now I start to understand your point of view. But cryo-sleep part is a bit strange though I admit we don't have much information about it. To the points:
Quote1. Even criminals have family.
    Imagine you get thrown out into space because you stole something. Your family would rage! You don't want a riot on a spaceship.
2. In cryo-sleep you don't need food..
    ..or other resources like medical attention. You  are actually saving resources by putting criminals into cryo-sleep.
3. You can use them as workers..
    ..once you found a planet you want to settle on. You want workers to build houses and grow food. Those criminals could just do some public service to redeem themselves.
1. Yes - that is why laws are not written and judges act upon building a rapport with communities. In practice, this leads to question of acceptance the crime and it's punishment by a specific community.

2. Cryo-sleep is a very special state of organism. Though you don't need food, it seems not to be very easy to maintain. 
    Myself I don't understand how it can be used as punishment - in cryo-sleep you don't age, you don't feel how the time is passing by. Of cause, in cryo-sleep person doesn't do anything but what will when he/she finally awake? That is what on one side.
    On another - the risks of cryo-sleep. If all would be good - with limited food resources it would be best to keep most part of population in cryo-sleep. But it consumes other type of resources (energy for sure but, maybe, and some more) + it is dangerous. Any casualty with cryo-pod can lead to death. And even after awaking, there is a chance to die due cryo-sickness.

3. Not bad idea... but I haven't seen anything like that in game on Exiles side. Though Dominion uses this kind of work.

About our leader yea - after a bit thinking - idea about data mix seems to be quite fine ^_^ Just an Aurin scientist that accidentally(?) did something wrong with computer systems 



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TeaTimes 17th May 2014

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The cryo-sleep is not supposed to be punishment. It's supposed to keep them from doing harm, while they can't be punished in a proper way.
So the punishment / redeeming would be the working for the community on the new planet (in this case Nexus).


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QuoteThe cryo-sleep is not supposed to be punishment. It's supposed to keep them from doing harm, while they can't be punished in a proper way.
So the punishment / redeeming would be the working for the community on the new planet (in this case Nexus).
Well, that is possible but only if judges knew when it would be possible to punish them.

In that case, I advice to make it 1658-1659 AE when Nexus was just discovered and fleet started to prepare heading there => Judges have decided to choose/execute punishment for WEIRD upon arrival on the planet.



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Frostglade 17th May 2014

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I think the point was that there was no WEIRD prior to arriving at Nexus. Once freed, the WEIRD-Os-to-be unilaterally decided to get off the ship and after landing find that they'd better make up a story. One of us notices that Rowsdowers, an important source of wool, food etc, are getting killed by individuals such as the Brofessional. This might happen by witnessing him blow a Rowsdower. Thus came the cover-up story of WEIRD. Though we might have to think something for the beginning of WEIRD not to give it away.

EDIT: By beginning I mean the WEI-part of WEIRD, though E could still stand for Exiles.
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TeaTimes 17th May 2014

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There's still one thing though. If someone wants to join us later on they're probably not criminals or know about the criminal history of WEIRD so those people are actual Rowsdower defenders.

So there would be two groups of WEIRD-Os. The ones who know and the ones who don't. So if you don't want to think up a criminal history at all, you could always be the second type.
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Geekbyte 17th May 2014

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QuoteThis might happen by witnessing him blow a Rowsdower.

I really hope you missed a word out there Corwen!

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