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Bambi 11th Feb 2015

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Ok this is the usual "I need a graphics card" thread but I need some opinions.

Basically my system is really dated. I have just take a big pay cut at work and we need to buy a new kitchen this year so as it stands a new PC is well out of the question for quite sometime. This is not a big issue really as I only spend time on games like LOTRO and Minecraft so I don't need anything special.

Now what kind or card should I be looking for and what kind of money should I look to spend? I don't know too much about pc's but I know a really good card would be bottlenecked by my dated pc. Should I just look to buy the equivalent spec to the card I have now? I had a look at there are so many cards with similar spec but massive price differences that I don't have a clue what to get really. I just don't want to spend a fortune for a card that I won't get the full benefits from.

This is my systems specs as it stands

MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30Ghz (Sandybridge) Processor
Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 Intel Z68 DDR3 Motherboard
G.skill RipJawsX 8gb DDR3 Ram
Sandisk Extreme SSD 204GB

Also not massively worried about future proofing. The only way I will be buying a new PC now is by getting the job I have just applied for. If I get that the whole pc goes in the bin and I'll buy everything new

Thanks for reading!



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MrYiff 11th Feb 2015

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One of the best budget/midrange cards atm is the nvidia 960, a decent partly overclocked one can be had for £175, not sure how this fits into your budget:

http://www.overclockers.c ... 1914&subcat=2379

It stacks up pretty well for cards in that price range plus has the benefits of being the latest gen tech so you get all the nvidia shadowplay stuff and dx 11 (and 12 when it comes out), support.

http://www.gamersnexus.ne ... fps-benchmark-review

If this is still too expensive then you might want to try looking for something like a used nvidia 760 on ebay or somewhere.






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Geekbyte 11th Feb 2015

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Your CPU is generally fine. I've upped from an i7 2600k to a i7 4790K and there's little real world difference except when encoding etc.

Your system overall is good and I doubt you'll bottle neck your CPU anyway.

Only thing you have consider is how much you have to spend.

Looking at some benchmarks a decent upgrade on your 6950 would be a Nvidia 770. They're not manufactured any more but the handy thing is they'll about double your frame rate and will be relatively cheap in the 2nd hand market.

There's no 800 series and the 900's are out of your price range for a cheap upgrade plus the 770 actual out performs the 960. The 970 is currently the most popular card due to it's price v performance.



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jimUKjxb 12th Feb 2015

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My system is nearly exactly the same as yours apart from I have an ASUS NVIDIA 670 and i still consider my PC as new

Maybe its time i upgrade as well
Bas 12th Feb 2015

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Haha that's about what I got except I have an i7 something something.. but I think the GPU is the same.
Why do you need a new one I wonder? If you're having issues with performance in LOTRO it's definately not your PC...
Bambi 12th Feb 2015

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I guess I just assume that because my pc is nearly 4 years old then I probably need a new one. Previously I have always bought a new pc every 3 years.

If my system is still looking up to it I don't mind spending a bit more on a graphics card. Had a quick look for used Nvidia 770 but most of them were around the £200 mark. If I was to spend that kind of money I may be able to stretch for a 970 but as long as it's worth it. I have got money set aside for a PS4 so I could pinch that after persuading the missus.

So with my system plus a new 770 or 970, would I be playing new games like GTA5 and Battlefield hardline without being on low settings? I recently bought COD AW and have to turn the settings right down to make it playable. This may be down to my graphics card issues now though as I have to manually flick the fans to get them working while gaming


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jimUKjxb 12th Feb 2015

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I play BF4 on max settings with your setup plus my 670. Im sure with a newer card you'll be laughing.

The CODs are always bad console ports arnt they? so not sure they are great for judging pc performance
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Geekbyte 12th Feb 2015

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What resolution are you playing at Shaun? 1920 x 1080?

Have to ask as resolution affects performance massively.


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Bambi 12th Feb 2015

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Yes mate, always play at 1920x1080


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Geekbyte 12th Feb 2015

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If you can stretch, then yes a 970 is the better buy as it's the latest generation of Nvidia card.

There's a few 770's on Ebay for around the £150 (ish), but a 970 will set you back at least £280 and a 770 will give your roughly double your FPS over you 6950 and the 970 more than that.

Your CPU should be OK, but you're entering the world of rolling upgrades

GPU every couple of years, CPU/Mobo/Ram every other year..... or if you're anything like Scott (was) he'd upgrade as soon as he saw a fecking picture


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Bambi 13th Feb 2015

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Cheers Gaz, it would be nice to enter the realms of rolling upgrades as I can't see me being able to afford a whole system for a couple of years now at best. Hopefully the CPU/Mobo/Ram will be affordable next year.

With this in mind I think I may stretch to a 970 and future proof. I'll have a look on OcUK later when I get 5 minutes but really can't spend more than £300 give or take a little

Thanks again


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MrYiff 13th Feb 2015

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If you are going with the 970 then check out the KFA (previously Galax), models as they are one of the cheapest ones around yet still come with a pretty solid factory overclock, I've got 2 in my rig and they work like a charm!

http://www.overclockers.c ... 1914&subcat=1010

Currently on offer this week for £269






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Geekbyte 13th Feb 2015

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Good price that.

Even tempted to SLI a pair and sell my 780


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Bambi 13th Feb 2015

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Wow so many 970's to chose from, is there any real differences to the many choices out there? Probably want the best card I can get for £300


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Geekbyte 13th Feb 2015

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Look at warranty length, performance, coolers and price

EVGA / KFA / ASUS / Gigabyte etc are all top brands and perform very similar so just look at the extras and general overall performance.

Check out Guru3D for reviews & comparisons on most of the cards.


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Bambi 13th Feb 2015

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This card is winning for me at the moment but I need to check out more in depth reviews

http://www.overclockers.c ... php?prodid=GX-259-MS

The KFA looks good but has a 2 year warrenty compaired to the MSI's 3 years

EVGA looks very good all round but no reviews on the cards I like the look of on OcUK

Will look into this more over the weekend and make my order.

Thanks for the help guys, really do appreciate it!


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Geekbyte 13th Feb 2015

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Check out this thread;

http://forums.overclocker ... hread.php?t=18231329

Gives you details on Warranty/RMA (fairly up to date) but check each manufacturer.


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Bambi 13th Feb 2015

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Ok thanks Gaz, this has probably swayed me back towards the Gigabyte or KFA again.

I really like the top Gigabyte model but I would have to cut out some of my SSD casing to fit it in which is not ideal. I will see how I can do this without it looking butchered. If I don't fancy this I will probably just go for the one of the KFA models which look decent.

Thanks again, lots to think about!


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USnake93 13th Feb 2015

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I have the GTX 980 from that exact MSI series. Works like a charm for me If you want to go with the others though, your choice..


Bambi 18th Feb 2015

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After lots of reading up I have finally ordered the MSI http://www.overclockers.c ... php?prodid=GX-259-MS

Arrives Friday so can't wait!

Thanks again for the help, really appreciate it!
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